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 Who Knows Who Is Who? What an Indian Politics?
Darshan’s son made a cop, Panthics plead family to return govt ‘aid’
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Darshan-s-son-made-a-cop–Panthics-plead-family-to-return-govt–aid-/554096
Sikh leaders pay tributes to shooting victim
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ludhiana/Sikh-leaders-pay-tributes-to-shooting-victim/articleshow/5333949.cms

Were they all not in field, to divide Sikhs for the political reasons with the support of the agencies?

Who are not with the government?

They may say or claim that they are with the centre or state, politically one and the same thing?

Were they all, former Jathedar of the Akal Takht, Bhai Ranjit Singh, president of SAD( Amritsar), Simranjeet Singh Mann, president of Delhi Sikh Gurdawara Management committee, Paramjit Singh Sarna, Damdami Taksal head, Baba Harnam Singh Dhuma, Baba Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwala, Satnam Singh Paonta Sahib of Dal Khalsa and Baba Sarabjot Singh Bedi of Sant Samaj etc, not in field, to divide Sikhs for the political reasons with the support of the agencies and always politically and financially benefited directly or indirectly so?

Gurpreet Singh son of Darshan Singh rightly accepted the government job in police, and thereby, gave a strong message to the opportunists that such death would never be cashed by anyone mischievously.

And, now, in return, in the present situation, the leaders of the various organizations may withdraw their announced financial assistance.

Comment by

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

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How much more can you divide India, asks Farooq

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/how-much-more-can-you-divide-india-asks-farooq/553969/ 

New and Renewable Energy Minister Farooq Abdullah pretending himself more patriot falsely

The smaller States are always necessity of any unmanaged country especially like India and there is no need to do politics by the hypocrites, on the issue of creation of further smaller States within India.

The population of India in its bigger states is unmanageable, uncontrollable, unregulated, so, better to have smaller toothless states, to keep India forcibly united and manageable under the unitary form of system constitutionally.

At least, union minister Farooq Abdullah should not oppose the move and the demand of smaller states, to pretend himself more patriot falsely.

The more powerless states never meant for dividing India under the system.

He knew very well that any of the Chief Ministers in India can do nothing of his own and has to work under “some powers” when he has already confessed the reality and created flutter by claiming that “some powers” had prevented him from probing the massacre of 35 Sikhs at Chattisinghpora in 2000 on the eve of Bill Clinton’s visit to India.

Comment by
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

www.sikhvicharmanch.com

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The 1984 Massacre of Sikhs

The Guilty Of Engineering and Abetting the 1984 Massacre of Sikhs Be Prosecuted After the Investigation in the Pending Cases

Was the then entire government machinery not to be held responsible and guilty of engineering and abetting the 1984 massacre of Sikhs, the State- Sponsored Violence against Sikhs and be prosecuted under section 120-B of IPC etc after the investigation in the pending cases?

Or

Are all the criminals responsible for the `genocide of Sikhs' or the `State-Sponsored Violence' against Sikhs not be allowed to take the plea in defence of the then PM (Rajiv Gandhi) who almost rationalized the killing,''?

Or

Was the then PM Rajiv Gandhi not the main accused for the `genocide of Sikhs' or the `State-Sponsored Violence' against Sikhs?

Or

Whether in case, the main accused (Rajiv Gandhi) stands killed by a ‘Human Bomb’, the other co-accused, who remained the part and parcel of the then entire government machinery, responsible for the `genocide of Sikhs' or the `State-Sponsored Violence' against Sikhs, were exempted in the investigation or can not be prosecuted after the investigation in the pending cases, now?  

Because, the justice is being denied, intentionally and deliberately, as experienced, then, under the circumstances, every possibility could to be seen as impossibility in India. 

An Opinion by:
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

Please Click To Read More...>Here

The Indypendent » 1984 Remembered: Cartoonist Draws on 25 Years of ...

 Image: "When a big tree falls the earth shakes a little"

  by Rajiv Gandhi, in the immediate aftermath of the massacre

 


http://www.indypendent.org/2009/11/24/1984-remembered-cartoonist-draws-on-25-years-of-impunity-after-sikh-massacre/

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

What is the role of “some powers” in the unitary form of Indian system???

Can any CM in India order the probe or do the justice against the wishes of “some powers”?

Farooq stirs massacre ghost

Union minister Farooq Abdullah today created a flutter by claiming that “some powers” had prevented him from probing the massacre of 35 Sikhs at Chattisinghpora in 2000 on the eve of Bill Clinton’s visit to India.

‘Some powers didn’t want Chattisinghpora investigated’

Guru Tegh Bahadar And The Perfect Human Being

http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Guru%20Tegh%20Bahadar%20And%20The%20Perfect%20Human%20Being.htm

Narinder Says:

As a Sikh who grew up in America, I found the Sikhtoon compelling. Right now we still face the 9/11 backlash of mistaken identity. If it were not the efforts of Vishvajit and other Sikhs, we would forget the more startling danger of the past. Some wounds cannot be healed over time, especially for Sikhs who have been the victims in India. I appreciated the chronological timeline of the art pieces, which carried the motion of the events seamlessly. The art was more potent without being an artifact. Some atrocities are too grand to be expressed in words; some photographic images are too haunting and overwhelm us with emotions that we cannot truly comprehend them. The toons were the perfect medium to express the horror of 1984. One such piece was of a timeline scale of Indra Gandhi’s assignation. It illustrated how the mourning stretched to a monument. Everything beneath and associated with it were crushed.
Vishavjit’s imagination expressed how a Sikh truly feels and his creative creations give the Americans, both Sikh and non Sikhs, an impassioned perspective. Often in India, most Bollywood movies make fools and caricatures of Sikhs. It was great to see the toons reduced the true villains to absurdity. I feel Vishvajit, one of the very few Sikhs, understands the true nature of art and the power it can yield. The atrocities of 1984 demands recognition and this kind of an exhibition not only sheds light but also breathes life to the voices of the victims.

Harbans Singh Says:

Indian Army’s attack, and destruction of Akal Takht
(highest seat of ‘authority’ among Sikhs) —
part of Sikhs’ holiest shrine, the ‘Golden Temple’ –

enraged the community so much that
cries and slogans like ‘Indira Gandhi Murda-Bad’, (wishing death to her}
were loud and common in Sikh protest demonstrations all over the world

It was commonly believed that
some Sikh was going to kill her. sooner or later.

Anticipating that, the goons among Congress party leaders, in Delhi and Haryana,,
made plans for such a retaliation that Sikhs would remember for all times to come.

Soon after Mrs Gandhi’s assassination, on October 31,
pre planned pogrom was put into practice
and thousands of Sikh men, women and children were massacred.

True, the Sikhs would remember this for all times to come — come November 1, its
anniversary would kindle a fresh wave of anger — especially because the known culprit leaders
have gone without punishment.

Harbans Singh Says:

Like November 1 last, demands would be made, loudly, on every anniversary , for justice, till
culprits are punished, and victim families are fully rehabilitated.

 

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

Action against the 1984 Riot Accused Would Be Speeded Up-
Chidambaram -ONLY WORDS

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1091216/jsp/opinion/story_11866489.jsp
The 1984 Massacre of Sikhs

The Guilty Of Engineering and Abetting the 1984 Massacre of Sikhs Be Prosecuted After the Investigation in the Pending Cases

Was the then entire government machinery not to be held responsible and guilty of engineering and abetting the 1984 massacre of Sikhs, the State- Sponsored Violence against Sikhs and be prosecuted under section 120-B of IPC etc after the investigation in the pending cases?
Or
Are all the criminals responsible for the `genocide of Sikhs’ or the `State-Sponsored Violence’ against Sikhs not be allowed to take the plea in defence of the then PM (Rajiv Gandhi) who almost rationalized the killing,”?
Or
Was the then PM Rajiv Gandhi not the main accused for the `genocide of Sikhs’ or the `State-Sponsored Violence’ against Sikhs?
Or
Whether in case, the main accused (Rajiv Gandhi) stands killed by a ‘Human Bomb’, the other co-accused, who remained the part and parcel of the then entire government machinery, responsible for the `genocide of Sikhs’ or the `State-Sponsored Violence’ against Sikhs, were exempted in the investigation or can not be prosecuted after the investigation in the pending cases, now?

Because, the justice is being denied, intentionally and deliberately, as experienced, then, under the circumstances, every possibility could to be seen as impossibility in India.

An Opinion by:
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
www.sikhvicharmanch.com
http://newsblaze.asterpix.com/cy/2423251/?q=Sikh+Vichar+
Manch&c=59522a18e9f211de938a0019b9c9a7e6

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

Whether Shiromani Akali Dal has ever decided to launch Gurdwaras Reform Movement again?

Whether Shiromani Akali Dal organized on December 14, 1920 at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib has ever decided to launch Gurdwaras Reform Movement again, to play the important role in the social, political and religious life of the Sikhs as well as of the Punjabis or has it been abandoned?
Did Shiromani Akali Dal celebrated the day and other similar days in the Sikh History being reminded, now and then, and taken the oath on December 14, 2009 at Sri Akal Takhat Sahib to do so?
Today in the Sikh History
http://www.punjabnewsline.com/content/view/21767/143/
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Ludhiana firing victim’s son to join Punjab Police
News: Impact of the comment! Were they all not in field, to divide Sikhs for the political reasons with the support of the central agencies?
Clash makes Panthic bodies close ranks
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/clash-makes-panthic-bodies-close-ranks/555243/
Punjab Police attack Sikhs in Punjab
http://sikhsangat.org/2009/12/punjab-police-attacks-sikhs-in-punjab/#comment-2269
Impact! Were they all not in field, to divide Sikhs for the political reasons with the help of the agencies?
Who are not with the government?
They may say or claim that they are with the centre or state, politically one and the same thing? Were they all, former Jathedar of the Akal Takht, Bhai Ranjit Singh, president of SAD( Amritsar), Simranjeet Singh Mann, president of Delhi Sikh Gurdawara Management committee, Paramjit Singh Sarna, Damdami Taksal head, Baba Harnam Singh Dhuma, Baba Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwala, Satnam Singh Paonta Sahib of Dal Khalsa and Baba Sarabjot Singh Bedi of Sant Samaj etc, not in field, to divide Sikhs for the political reasons with the support of the agencies and always politically and financially benefited directly or indirectly so?
Gurpreet Singh son of Darshan Singh rightly accepted the government job in police, and thereby, gave a strong message to the opportunists that such death would never be cashed by anyone mischievously.
And, now, in return, in the present situation, the leaders of the various organizations may withdraw their announced financial assistance.
Earlier Comment by
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
www.sikhvicharmanch.com
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Punjabi/Dharam%20ate%20rajniti-Sikh%20Katleam%20Chaurasi%20de%20doshian.htm

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

Justice T S Doabia (retired) Said He Would Conduct His Enquiry in Ludhiana Police Firing at Delhi Itself

Why the demand of Judicial inquiry only in Ludhiana? What about the probe in the Politics of Injustice like in the issues of the Politics of Poverty and the Idleness in India, as was the investigation also lingering on in the 1984 Massacre of Sikhs.

Did ever similarly asked by DSGMC president Paramjit Singh Sarna etc to Justice T S Doabia (retired) or to any other panel to probe into the guilty of engineering and abetting the 1984 massacre of Sikhs, the State- Sponsored Violence against Sikhs, and yet, are required to be conducted and the accused have to be prosecuted under section 120-B of IPC etc along with the pending cases?

Arenâ??t the demand and the Ludhiana police firing inquiry the part of Indian dirty politics and eyewash?

By Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
December 20, 2009

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

Punjabi Tribune, Chandigarh Punjab Tuesday, 22 December 2009 Page-3
Police and Civil Administration Responsible For Ludhiana Incidents

Tribune News Service, Chandigarh, 21 December 2009

A Report prepared by the Team of Professors of Universities arrived from New-Delhi

The following questions are required to be answered in the larger interest:

1. When the migrant labourers had been out of control, then, only the police, not in sufficient strength available on the spot, and the civil administration took the help of locals irrespective of any party, group, or sect etc to control them violently?

2. Was the violence avoidable or did it happen purely due to mismanagement and the law and order problem?

3. Under the circumstances, whether the violence between the locals and the migrants were of different nature than as usually arranged or incited by the politicians for the political reasons in other parts of India like the massacre of Muslims in Gujarat and the Sikhs massacre in 1984 etc in India?

4. Whether the report distinguishes the facts clearly or not?

In absence of the answers to the questions, the report could prove a disastrous for the peace loving and law abiding Indians.

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
December 22, 2009

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana Says:

Identify The Sikhs, Who Is Who?
By Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

It was very positive and the encouraging step for Sikhs that â? Panj Piarasâ?? comprising former Jathedars of Takhts and granthis, Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti, Giani Kewal Singh, Prof Manjit Singh, Giani Charan Singh and Giani Narinder Singh submit Darshan Singhâ??s clarification on his controversial remarks to Jathedar, Akal Takht, Giani Gurbachan Singh on 25 December 2009 to avoid any friction in and or division of Sikhs and for the permanent solution of the issues of the community which must be sorted out by forming a religious panel.
Whoever was participating in burning effigies etc due to factionalism and divides Sikhs, was worthy to be called a Sikh?

Was it not the behaviour of all politically motivated Sikhs, divided on the lines of factionalism within Sikhs at the instance of anti-Sikh forces or of their own reasons?

Were the only non-party and the non-politically motivated Sikhs not true Sikhs now?

Identify the Sikhs, who is who? Also read, the Sikh Vichar Manchâ??s an analysis about â?�The Political Conferences at Shaheedi Sammelanâ?? as under:

The Political Conferences at Shaheedi Sammelan -An Analysis

FATEHGARH SAHIB: The Sikh Vichar Manch was of the view after assessing and analyzing the political conferences at Shaheedi sammelan on the historic occasion of 305th martyrdom day that the congress or any other party through the central agencies shall not play to field and use seriously their spineless and non-poisonous snakes, so-called Panthic leaders against the Shiromani Akali Dal headed by Badals in the coming Shiromani Gurdawara Parbhanbdak Committee (SGPC) elections.

There is possibility of mutual internal adjustment i.e. friendly match with â??Panthic leadersâ?ť on a few seats to project the image that the SGPC elections held in a very healthy atmosphere and is the result of mature democratic process.

The government of India stands exposed badly for adopting mean and deceptive tactics also in religious matters and for the reasons, neither seems in a mood to vitiate the religious atmosphere nor would be now appreciated as a vitiator in Punjab.

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana-Sikh Vichar Manch
Dec 25, 2009 9:01 AM
www.sikhvicharmanch.com
Who Knows Who Is Who? What an Indian Politics?
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Who%20is.htm
 

 

Identify The Sikhs, Who Is Who?

http://www.littleabout.com/news/51887,identify-the-sikhs-who-is-who.html
http://www.littleabout.com/news/51886,i-am-childish-expose-spoiled-system.html

As also an introduction:

I Am Childish to Expose the Spoiled System
By Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana

Dear my child-Sikh youth-no name given to you by the Guru or your parents to identify you and you are so brave hiding your identity. Are you really Sikh youth not something else. Are you not challenging, ‘Now COMEON Balbir’ me who is like your father and that’s only for the sake of argument due to your own untold compulsion, pushing or compelling you? 

I am a lawyer by profession who is supposed to rarely give advice or share his experiences especially with people or kids like you without their asking, approaching and charging the consultation fee.  But, I voluntarily opted to do so, may be because of my innocent background or unethical and childish legal behaviour, for the reasons, I failed to earn like others. 

I always stay among the people who have different views and always learn a lot from them.  

I understood you are liberal in the sense to enjoy life and also understand the Punjab policies and don’t bad mouth them in a negative way. You may be against pseudo khalistani leaders (like me), those residing abroad and these missionary cult from Punjab is damaging our Punjab (They are supported by the Indian central agencies as a part of their policy). 

But, I wish to submit before Sikh youths, not to say anything against those who sacrificed innocently or otherwise for the cause and their sacrifice being cashed by the agencies, you may call them, “All these pseudo khalistani leaders residing abroad and these missionary cult from Punjab is damaging our Punjab”.  

Good! You also taste many bad things and many good of India. Again, I am childish to expose the spoiled system for my own disadvantage and accepting the challenges from people like you, enjoying different tastes of life of India and abroad.  

You are too late or too young to advise me or to say, “About Sikhi life in practice and about respecting age old maryada, listen to those who got some jeevan. Finally give respect to Akal Takht Sahib!”  

You seem to possess very idealistic views without practicing those as an idealistic human being. Please see: Guru Tegh Bahadar, An Ideal Human Being;

http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Poetry-What%20About%20Sikhs%20Today.htm 

Please go through my writings, views including comments http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Who%20is.htm and similarly more published and linked on my website: www.sikhvicharmanch.com , then you shall feel free to decide like a prudent man or as fundamentalist (s) whether I am a Sikh or not?  

Oh my child! Like you, who issue certificates to Sikhs are fundamentalists to me.  

www.sikhvicharmanch.com 

Please do refer:
http://sikhsangat.org/2009/12/darshan-singh-supporters-silenced-by-sikh-sangat-in-ny/#comment-2458 

 Who Knows Who Is Who? What an Indian Politics? 

http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Who%20is.htm

 

 
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